{"id":5830,"date":"2024-01-14T22:22:36","date_gmt":"2024-01-14T21:22:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mouillere.com\/universconvergents\/?p=5830"},"modified":"2024-01-17T14:41:34","modified_gmt":"2024-01-17T13:41:34","slug":"openai-impossible-de-faire-de-lia-sans-violer-les-droits-des-tiers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mouillere.com\/universconvergents\/2024\/01\/14\/openai-impossible-de-faire-de-lia-sans-violer-les-droits-des-tiers\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI : impossible de faire de l&#8217;IA sans violer les droits des tiers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Impossible de d\u00e9velopper Youtube sans violer les droits d&#8217;auteurs, Facebook et tweeter sans violer les donn\u00e9es personnel et v\u00e9hiculer massivement de la d\u00e9sinformation, Amazon sans violer le droit des marques, Uber sans violer le droit du travail, etc. Alors pourquoi toutes ces soci\u00e9t\u00e9s continuent \u00e0 s&#8217;autoriser \u00e0 distribuer des produits et services illicites tout en revendiquant des droits de propri\u00e9t\u00e9s intellectuelle sur leurs propres d\u00e9veloppements informatiques, algorithmes, marques, etc. ? A suivre OpenAI, nous sommes tous libres de copier les d\u00e9veloppements d&#8217;OpenAI et de distribuer un service \u00e9quivalent au nom de l&#8217;innovation puisqu&#8217;il est impossible d&#8217;innover sans violer le droit des tiers.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Selon OpenAI, il est impossible de d\u00e9velopper l&#8217;IA sans utiliser des oeuvres prot\u00e9g\u00e9es par le droit d&#8217;auteur. L&#8217;utilisation d&#8217;oeuvres tomb\u00e9es dans le domaine public ne permet pas d&#8217;obtenir des syst\u00e8mes d&#8217;IA r\u00e9pondant aux besoins d&#8217;aujourd&#8217;hui.<\/p>\n<p>Nous sommes tous n\u00e9cessairement d&#8217;accord avec ces all\u00e9gations mais rien n&#8217;interdit OpenAI d&#8217;identifier et citer les sources et de reverser une juste et \u00e9quitable r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration aux auteurs des oeuvres contribuant au d\u00e9veloppement de l&#8217;IA et de l&#8217;innovation.<\/p>\n<iframe src=\"\/\/docs.google.com\/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmouillere.com%2Funiversconvergents%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2024%2F01%2FOpenAI%E2%80%94written-evidence.pdf&hl=fr&embedded=true\" class=\"gde-frame\" style=\"width:100%; height:500px; border: none;\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<p class=\"gde-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mouillere.com\/universconvergents\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/OpenAI\u2014written-evidence.pdf\" class=\"gde-link\">T\u00e9l\u00e9charger (PDF, 76KB)<\/a><\/p>\n<iframe src=\"\/\/docs.google.com\/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmouillere.com%2Funiversconvergents%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2024%2F01%2Fkadrey-meta-complaint.pdf&hl=fr&embedded=true\" class=\"gde-frame\" style=\"width:100%; height:500px; border: none;\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<p class=\"gde-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mouillere.com\/universconvergents\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/kadrey-meta-complaint.pdf\" class=\"gde-link\">T\u00e9l\u00e9charger (PDF, 165KB)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zdnet.fr\/actualites\/openai-leve-lui-meme-le-lievre-impossible-de-faire-de-l-ia-gen-sans-se-moquer-du-droit-d-auteur-39963530.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.zdnet.fr\/actualites\/openai-leve-lui-meme-le-lievre-impossible-de-faire-de-l-ia-gen-sans-se-moquer-du-droit-d-auteur-39963530.htm<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/technology\/2024\/jan\/08\/ai-tools-chatgpt-copyrighted-material-openai\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/technology\/2024\/jan\/08\/ai-tools-chatgpt-copyrighted-material-openai<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zdnet.fr\/actualites\/ces-auteurs-poursuivent-openai-et-meta-pour-violation-du-droit-d-auteur-39960514.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.zdnet.fr\/actualites\/ces-auteurs-poursuivent-openai-et-meta-pour-violation-du-droit-d-auteur-39960514.htm<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Impossible de d\u00e9velopper Youtube sans violer les droits d&#8217;auteurs, Facebook et tweeter sans violer les donn\u00e9es personnel et v\u00e9hiculer massivement de la d\u00e9sinformation, Amazon sans violer le droit des marques,&hellip; 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